Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Goofy Republicans and the Jewish Vote

Cross Posted at Daily Kos

This year the Republicans have been making a huge push for the Jewish vote AND with that Jewish Campaign Donations. Because of that, we see a myriad of strange attacks none of which are fact based, and all of which ignore the traditional liberal nature of the American Jewish Polity.

Many of these attacks center on the U.S. relationship with Israel and/or how President Obama has slighted Israel in some way by either originally supporting forces of change  in the Arab World, working with the changes that have been wrought by the mass revolts of the "Arab Spring", or has stuck to the position of every American Government since 1967 with regards to secure borders and the land captured from Jordan in the Six Day War. And of course, one of these slights has been not responding to every single incident that the Israeli Right (and their supporters here) have determined to be anti-Semitic (and these incidents may be and are anti-Semitic but the President of the U.S. has other things to worry about than issuing condemnations regarding every single thing broadcast on Palestinian Authority or Hamas T.V.).

Hopefully, the American Jewish community which has traditionally been quite liberal is not going to buy this crap.

Lately we see the ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) sufferers on the Right,  just getting silly and spewing (and I mean spewing) nonsense like, continuing to call President Obama a secret Muslim, saying that he loves and enables "radical genocidal jihad", blaming him for the breakdown in talks in the Middle East, straight out calling Democrats anti-Semites and generally urging the American Jewish Community to turn to the Right and actually vote for Republicans this year.... all the while claiming they are still "liberal".

Of course what makes this nonsensical (aside from the fact that it is not true) is that nothing says "liberal" like ending affordable Healthcare, pushing for an end to Medicare, taxing the Middle Class and Poor while relieving the Ultra Wealthy of all tax burdens, undoing Roe v. Wade, Gutting the environment and on and on and on. (/snark)

AND THAT'S WHAT THESE NITWITS ARE VOTING FOR WHEN THEY VOTE REPUBLICAN! and yet amazingly they call themselves "Liberals"

They simply seem to forget that President Obama:

1. Is the First President ever to hold a Seder in the White House.

2. Is the First President to declare a month of the year "Jewish History Month" (May 2011).

3. Has increased aid and cooperation with/to Israel beyond a measure of any other President and has been termed by the Israeli President (Shimon Peres) and Defense Minister Ehud Barak as an "EXCEPTIONAL FRIEND" to Israeli Security

and on and on and on.

Yet, "The Derangers" (as we call them) yell... But, but, but.... "He is an anti-Semite".

It simply boggles the mind just what these fools come up with.

Of course, many of them seem to love Newt Gingrich because of his rabid denials of Palestinian peoplehood and his ties to the Israeli Hard Right YET... I haven't seen anyone of them commenting on any blog regarding the fact that he has not denounced this incident that happened at a church service that he was attending:
Inside, the topic of the evening discussion, led by Joel Rosenberg, a novelist who writes about Islamic terrorism, focused partially on how to convert Jews to the faith.
 "As a Jewish person," Rosenberg, who was raised by a Jewish father and a Gentile mother, "our people really didn't get it the first time Jesus came."
He urged the audience not to be bashful, and to act quickly in case the End Times were nigh. "I know you know Jewish people," he told them. "You have an accountant, you have a lawyer..."
HEY Derangers... where are your calls for Newt condemn this anti-Semitic bullshit? Eh, anyone... anyone.....

The President of the United States has the people of the United States and U.S. Alliances to worry about. Gestures like not moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem or denying Palestinian history really don't amount to much considering his responsibilities and quite honestly his actions which prove beyond a doubt that he is supportive of our friendship with Israel.

But for these wanna-be Republicans I guess they will not like the following news from Nate Silver
7:29 P.M. |Jewish Turnout Low in Florida There has been some speculation that Democrats could struggle to hold the Jewish vote in 2012. They had struggled, for instance, in the special election in New York's 9th Congressional District in 2011, which has a heavy Orthodox Jewish population.
But there is no sign tonight of Jewish voters switching their registration over to the Republican side in Florida. According to early exit polls, just 1 percent of voters in tonight's Republican primary identified as Jewish. That's down from 3 percent in the Florida Republican primary in 2008, which also might mean that Jewish Republican voters in the state are not terribly enthusiastic about this group of candidates. Jewish turnout in general elections in Florida is normally about 4 percent
and then there is this:

I guess that President Obama is having such trouble with Jewish support that one of his top bundlers is the chairman of the American Jewish Congress
Among the newly named bundlers who have raised at least $500,000 or more for the Obama re-election are Marc Benioff, a Silicon Valley computer tycoon who founded Salesforce.com and hosted a fundraiser for the president at his home last spring; Jack Rosen, a prominent New York real estate developer who is chairman of the American Jewish Congress; and Kawana Brown, the chief operating officer of Magic Johnson Enterprises.
OH YEAH and according to the American Jewish Committee Poll 2011 (widely considered to be an accurate read on Jewish Political trends), while Jews do not identify as Democrats as much as they did in 2008 (54% to 46%), Republicans have not picked up anything and in fact, are down 1% in their support. Much of that support is now identified as "Independent", but if trends continue President Obama should still end up with close to 73% of the Jewish vote.

However it is important to continue to fight the misinformation, poor framing, and outright lies spread by the Republicans and their supporters/enablers in order to try to win enough of the Jewish vote away from the President particularly in States like Florida and Pennsylvania, where the President will need every vote that he can get.

As Mets102 so correctly wrote: Jewish values are Democratic Values and they are.These faux "liberals" (hey they claim David Horowitz is a "liberal" that is how far outside of rationality they are) don't represent anything but a wish list of Hard Rightists who are more worried about voting against a guy whose middle name is Hussein then they are with supporting Israel in fact or recognizing that President Obama is a true friend to Jewish Americans.

For me, and hopefully many of my Jewish brothers and sisters it will be OBAMA 2012!

11 comments:

  1. Completely agree. The Republicans are bad news and antithetical to Jewish values. I cannot understand how one can claim to be anything other than a crazy conservative and still support this Republican field and today's Republican Party.

    //signed//
    A dhimmi in New York on behalf of a majority of the Jewish-American community

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    1. Ah my fellow servile dhimmi... I guess we are just not as rough and tumble of our brave little screeching cousins as they type their scathing indictments based on outright lies and batshit crazy interpretations of the news.

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  2. While I support President Obama fully as a Jew and Zionist, I just don't agree with this piece's implied skepticism towards the antisemitic filth that is spewed on TV and rhetoric throughout the Middle East, nor that toward radical genocidal jihad.

    On the later, why do you place it in quotes, indicating that it is something to be mocked? And why do you call the former a right wing point, something that only the Israeli Right and their supporters would be concerned about? I for one take the genocidal antisemitic rhetoric and incidents from the Middle East very seriously. The hatred that is being continually whipped up throughout the Arab and Muslim world by both religious and political leaders is toxic to peace and to liberal values, not to mention extremely dangerous to humanity and to me personally as a Jew.

    If the intent of this piece is to win over skeptics who may have been unfortunately persuaded to join the ODS bandwagon, this is not the way to do it - mocking their concerns. I believe that mocking the seriousness of antisemitic rhetoric and acts is not the way to convince people that President Obama is on their side, and it will only enable the antisemites and derangers.

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    1. Agree with the gist of this remark. Putting down others this way by emulating their alleged poor conduct causes alienation and more demonization. It is worse when it comes from those who say they are progressive, but exhibit intolerance.

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    2. Part One of two parts to answer your comment:

      fiz... What in the world are you talking about???? I mean are you serious, REALLY?

      I just don't agree with this piece's implied skepticism towards the antisemitic filth that is spewed on TV and rhetoric throughout the Middle East, nor that toward radical genocidal jihad.

      What implied skepticism? You think I don't know about the anti-Semitism in the Arab world? I thought you read my stuff, including at this blog. You think I am unaware of how rife it is? Seriously?

      What I am skeptical about is not the genocidal nature of the Jihad but the way it is used to mis-frame and mis-inform people not mention how it is used to attack the President for imagined sleights.

      On the later, why do you place it in quotes, indicating that it is something to be mocked?

      Because the way the term is tossed around by Republicans and wannabee Republicans deserves mocking. I am mocking the use of it in completely inappropriate or false contexts and Yes, fizziks it is used in that manner.

      And why do you call the former a right wing point, something that only the Israeli Right and their supporters would be concerned about?

      Again, because of it's misuse as a term. I am not saying that only the Israeli Right and their supporters would (or should) be concerned about the anti-Semitic nature of the Jihad". I am saying that the way they mangle term and misuse it, shaping it to build a climate of hatred and fear needs to be rejected. It is taking a simplistic term and applying to a complex issue.

      Let's take for instance Karma's continued out of context quoting of President Obama on Tunisia and trying to use the selected quote as proof that the President supports radical Jihad. Of course, he doesn't show you the rest of the quote where it is not the President celebrating the results of an Islamist victory rather it shows the President praising a movement that overthrew the Dictator Ben-Ali and set up elections. Basically he was celebrating Democracy - an American value. Let's look at the entire quote: http://worldnews.about.com/od/middleeas1/a/Obama-Addresses-Arab-World.htm

      There are times in the course of history when the actions of ordinary citizens spark movements for change because they speak to a longing for freedom that has been building up for years. In America, think of the defiance of those patriots in Boston who refused to pay taxes to a King, or the dignity of Rosa Parks as she sat courageously in her seat. So it was in Tunisia, as that vendor’s act of desperation tapped into the frustration felt throughout the country. Hundreds of protesters took to the streets, then thousands. And in the face of batons and sometimes bullets, they refused to go home –- day after day, week after week -- until a dictator of more than two decades finally left power.

      The story of this revolution, and the ones that followed, should not have come as a surprise. The nations of the Middle East and North Africa won their independence long ago, but in too many places their people did not. In too many countries, power has been concentrated in the hands of a few. In too many countries, a citizen like that young vendor had nowhere to turn -– no honest judiciary to hear his case; no independent media to give him voice; no credible political party to represent his views; no free and fair election where he could choose his leader.


      Continued in Part II

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    3. Part II:

      ...Now, if that looks to you like the President is supporting the rise of Islamist political forces then, I really don't know what to tell you.

      BTW, in an article in Ynet recently - the beseiged Jews of Tunisia (snark), just told Silvan Shalom to mind his own business and that they were not going to move to Israel. Don't believe me - here you go: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4183413,00.html

      Now, you said:

      I for one take the genocidal antisemitic rhetoric and incidents from the Middle East very seriously.

      Good for you. So do I. And....

      The hatred that is being continually whipped up throughout the Arab and Muslim world by both religious and political leaders is toxic to peace and to liberal values, not to mention extremely dangerous to humanity and to me personally as a Jew

      Yes it is dangerous to us all but the Jihad is far more than a movement to just kill Jews. It is many things to many people. The fact of the matter is that the rise of Islamist governments has much more to do with a backlash against current corruption in the reactionary monarchies and petty dictatorships of the region together with a society that never underwent a "reformation" and is striking out against an increasingly complex world than it does with killing the Jews.

      I am sorry that you find my striking out at the lying ODS'ers so distressing. I like to think it is one of the things that we do that the IDS'ers and Team-P won't do. They won't call out their worst elements. Well, I don't want to be just like them - I call out the bullshit when I see it. I am sorry that bothers you but it is not going to make me stop.

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    4. Yes I am serious.

      Certainly, I don't find striking out at lying ODSers distressing. I think they should be rhetorically struck out against, especially if they are lying and deceiving.

      But I don't see how that is accomplished in the slightest by implying that the "Israeli right" and "their supporters here" are the ones who are offended by antisemitism. I am an American leftist, and I am profoundly offended by every bit of antisemitism that I see eminating from Hamas, the PA, other Arab regimes, other spokespeople in the Muslim world, the derangers in Europe, and here in America. I don't see at all how framing that as a left/right issue is going to win anyone over to your (our) thinking on this matter. I don't know if you intend to, but you are essentially saying "If you are offended by antisemitism, especially the antisemitism inherent in anti-Zionism, then you are right wing." Well fuck that noise.

      Not only does that alienate the very people that you are trying to win over, but it validates the rhetoric of the Israel derangers of the type that congregate at the place you cross-posted this, who claim that support for Israel and opposition to radical Jihad is the right wing position. Again, while I agree with the general sentiment of the piece, and I am a huge supporter of the President and opponent of Republican politicians, I think you have committed a big rhetorical error in doing what I have highlighted above.

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    5. fizziks...

      But I don't see how that is accomplished in the slightest by implying that the "Israeli right" and "their supporters here" are the ones who are offended by antisemitism.

      Apparently you did not fully read my comment to you (or really anything else I have written for that matter). I am not saying or implying that only the Israeli Right and their supporters are the only ones offended by anti-Semitism. I am just as offended by anti-Semitism as you are and no offense intended but, I have a lot more experience with it than you do. But that is not the point. If you want to combat anti-Semitism you have to understand it. It is not some black and white thing. Sorry. BTW, I have had fights around it so please don't tell me I excuse it any way.

      But I don't see how that is accomplished in the slightest by implying that the "Israeli right" and "their supporters here" are the ones who are offended by antisemitism.

      Nope. You are wrong. I am not implying that at all. What I am saying is that it is one thing to be offended by anti-Semitism. It is another to use it as a crutch to defend or justify racism and lies.

      As for the rest, fizziks, I am simply not going to cede the argument to the worst of our polity just because Team P is hovering out there like an upset stomach that won't go away. That is the exact argument they use when talking about us and so they allow the worst elements of their arguments to set the tone. How many times do we notice they don't take on their own racists? Well, I am not going to do that here. The argument in favor of Israel needs to appeal to the best of our instincts. Especially not here at the P.Z.

      First of all we are progressives, and should support progressive values which generally are the ideals of liberal democracy. Second of all, we are Zionists and like the early Zionists we will not cede our argument to the Rightists. Just imagine if Ben-Gurion gave up to Jabotinsky. Israel might never have happened. Israel was built on progressive values, the Jewish polity in America reflects a progressive polity. I would hope we would keep to those ideals.

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    6. Err... should read "the argument in favor of Israel needs to appeal to the best of our instincts especially here at The Progressive Zionist. My bad.

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    Good diary. The ODS crowd must be crapping in their pants after reading what Nate Silver reported. Their race bating, right-wing tactics are having no success at all . . . I guess it's back to the drawing board for them. Heh.

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    1. I love the... "we may vote for people that want to take away a woman's right to choose, subvert the Constitution by destroying the barrier between Church and State, gut the environment, wipe out public education, destroy the social safety net, end affordable health care but really... we are liberals."

      Someone needs to tell them that when they vote for that, they don't get to call themselves "liberals" anymore.

      I love the fact that Jews were only 1% of the Republican turnout as well. So much for the meme about the Jewish vote bailing out. The rest of Florida's Jews must not have gotten the memo that they were supposed to vote for Republicans.

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