There is a new Pew
Poll out (dated 5/09/13) regarding the Middle East, America, President Obama and
attitudes regarding the Peace Process.
Here are some of the highlights…
In Israel
– Despite claims by the bigots on the Right and divestment people on the Left, Israel is indeed a friend of the U.S. Our nation
(the U.S.)
enjoys an 83% favorability rating in the eyes of Israelis. In contrast the U.S. only has a
16% favorability rating amongst Palestinians. This is important to point out
since the anti-Semites and Lunatic Fringe inhabitants tend to think that
Israelis are lukewarm to America
at best, particularly since President Obama has been in the White House.
Of course there are more numbers than this. Despite the
deranged bleating of our own (the Zionist) Right Wing a strong majority of
Israelis (82%) feel that U.S. foreign policy is either Fair (47%) or Favors
Israel (35%), not too bad a rating for an administration who (according to the
Lunatic Fringe) supports the Muslim Brotherhood and Jihad against Jews.
But there’s more. According to the poll, President Obama
enjoys a 61% Approval rating amongst Israelis with only 36% saying they don’t
approve. Here are the Pew Findings:
“Israelis and Palestinians also differ on views of Obama. About six-in-ten (61%) Israelis express confidence in the American president to do the right thing regarding world affairs, up from 49% in 2011. In the Palestinian territories, just 15% have confidence in Obama, while 82% have little or no confidence in him.
In Israel, opinions of Obama are far more positive among Jews than among Arabs. More than six-in-ten (64%) Jews express confidence in the American president, compared with about half (48%) of Arabs.
Secular Jews in Israel are especially positive in their views of Obama. About seven-in-ten (71%) secular Jews have confidence in Obama to do the right thing when it comes to world affairs, compared with 56% of Israeli Jews who describe themselves as traditional, religious or ultra-Orthodox.”
Overall (as the numbers show) it seems that Israelis in general and Israelis Jews in particular understand that President Obama is a strong friend to Israel. But, here was an interesting number that I didn’t expect to see and was heartened by… Strong pluralities of both Israeli Arabs and Israeli Jews feel that the Presidents role in peace negotiations… wait for it… SHOULD BE LARGER.
Now for some other numbers.
On the Peace process things are not quite as rosy. In answer to questions regarding favorability of Fatah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad all three received favorable views but Islamic Jihad was favorably viewed by 56% of the Palestinian Polity. This is hardly encouraging since both Hamas and Islamic Jihad advocate for the elimination of Jews both in the Middle East and in the World.
Further, while 50% (50-38%) of Israelis think that they can live peacefully with their Palestinian neighbors in a Two State relationship, only 14% of Palestinians think the same way. Moreover a plurality – 45% of Palestinians think that Armed Struggle is the best way to gain a state, they say this more than any other single option and given the favorability of Islamic Jihad – that is seemingly the way that they would go.
As for the settlements, a plurality of Israelis think that they harm Israeli security (42%) while a minority (27%) think that they help. Amongst the Arabs this number is (4% vs. 84% - help to hurt ratio). BUT one thing that they are doing, as can be seen from the numbers is contributing to Israel’s lack of favorable numbers with it’s E.U. trading partners.
Generally what we are seeing here is a strong trend of
Pro-American favorability and sympathy amongst Israelis towards the U.S.
while there is a growing antipathy amongst the Palestinian population. The
disturbing numbers are the Palestinian numbers which reflect a turn back
towards radical failed means to achieve statehood and a simple non-interest in
seeing a compromise solution.
Still, it is heartening to see that BOTH Israelis and
Palestinians favor a larger presence by the Obama Administration in particular
and by the American government in general. As I have long maintained the
current Administration is a strong friend to Israel and I believe now we can see
that the Israelis are realizing this as well.
(livosh1)
ReplyDeleteInteresting numbers, volley. Of course, while this confirms that the hateful and bigoted ODS crowd is completely full of shit, it won't for a moment give them pause; they will continue to spew their garbage, as their hatred and bigotry drowns out logic all too often in their circles.
And while it is heartening to see that both sides desire a greater role for the President, keep in mind he doesn't have a magic wand. There's nothing he can do if both sides do not seriously commit themselves to making real, good faith, concessions. And right now, with both sides committed to little more than making excuses and pointing fingers, I doubt there is much the President can do to change that dynamic.
And while a strong plurality finds the settlements harm Israel's security interests, that really doesn't fully address the issue. The settlements harm Israel's interests, period -- not just those limited to security.
And I wouldn't focus too much on the armed struggle numbers; those will slim down considerably if and when there is an Israeli government committed to reaching a two-state resolution to the conflict.
Well of course these numbers are a straight out slap in the face of the Benghazi whining crazy crowd. You know, I just read the whole 39 page report (which includes on the ground reports) on that from the Independent commission and it's pretty obvious that while very tragic, there was no malicious thought in any of the decision making there. Yes, there were some serious mistakes but the bullshit CT that everyone could be saved if not for State's inaction is just that... bullshit CT. The White House did know what was happening but there was only so much they could do. This is just another case of Republicans abusing a situation to try to create political gain.
DeleteAs for the rest... I am not sure I agree with your last paragraph. I see your point but the Palestinian polity has NEVER accepted Israel's existence. As Salaam Fayad just said
"We are victims of our own rhetoric" (paraphrased). There is only one thing I agree with PM Netanyahu about, and that is the insistence that Israel be recognized as a "Jewish State". It's important because it ends ANY claims of Right of Return for all time.
I agree that this governments insistence on settlements and eventual annexation is harmful to the prospects for peace, not too mention the nations security and as such I think they need to look at options that would help create a more positive atmosphere for peace. That said, I think it important to remember that in any peace negotiation it takes two to tango.
(livosh1)
DeleteI don't think that the reaction to the current government (and the one preceding it) is a good indicator of what the reaction would be if there were a government truly committed to a comprehensive and viable two-state solution. The right-wing crazies want to use that as an excuse to never pursue peace. Yes, it takes two to tango, but right now no one wants to tango.