Monday, July 30, 2012

Mr. Romney goes to Israel; Jewish voters say "Meh"....

Cross posted at Daily Kos

In the last week Mitt Romney has gone on what can be best described as an "around the world train wreck". In one week he has managed to piss off our strongest ally (the British) and then turn around and completely insult and anger the Arab World and any erstwhile ally or friend we have in the region outside of Israel.

All of this has been covered to the nth degree so there is no real need to rehash the information, HOWEVER, it is worth noting that in his shameless pandering to the Evangelical and Right wing voters (Including the hard fringe of the Jewish Right both here in the U.S. and in Israel) he manages to completely get in the way of the alliance that President Obama is building to counter Iranian hegemonistic interests in the region.

How did he do this? With his typical attempt to play both sides of an issue. First, he told the Israelis that he would call:
Jerusalem "the capital of Israel," ignoring their own claims to the city and most world opinion.
but when questioned on this issue he refused to say if he would actually do that. As the Egypt Gazette reported:
In an interview with CNN, Romney refused to be pinned down on whether he would recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital if he beats Obama and wins the White House. 
"A nation has the capacity to choose its own capital city, and Jerusalem is Israel's capital," he said.
"I think it's long been the policy of our country to ultimately have our embassy in the nation's capital, Jerusalem. The decision to actually make the move is one, if I were president, I would want to take in consultation with the leadership of the (Israeli) government which exists at that time. So I would follow the same policy we have in the past (vb1 emphasis)."
In other words... "I plan to do nothing, but, I want gullible American voters and their allies in other nations to think that I might do something AND in the meanwhile I will get any alliances the President Obama might be building and put them in jeopardy". 

Now, hopefully other nations seeing this, as well as the debacle that Romney made out of the British leg of his trip, will hopefully understand that Romney is NOT the President of the United States and does not speak for our nation.

But back to the main point of this diary...

Last week Gallup released yet another poll showing the race in terms of President Obama vs. Mitt Romney with Jewish voters. Following along with most polls of the Jewish American electorate in the words of The Forward:Obama Thumping Romney Among Jews: Poll GOP Candidate Trails 68%-to-25% as He Heads to Israel:
On the eve of presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s visit to Israel, a new Gallup poll reveals that Jewish American voters continue to support his rival, President Barack Obama, by a wide 68%-25% margin.
Now these numbers have been fairly consistent and that has led many Republicans and their ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) flacks to crow about how the President is "bleeding" Jewish support. Why do they do this? Well in the 2008 election, President Obama won the Jewish vote approx. 78%-22%. So, when they see the 68% number they immediately try to spin the information in their favor to feed the meme that the President is losing support amongst Jewish voters. 

BUT, hold the phone (as they say)... Is the President REALLY "bleeding" support from Jewish voters? The answer is... "Not so much". Let's look at the Gallup polls prior to the 2008 election at this time in fact... Quite the opposite seems to be happening. According to Gallup in July of 2008 then Senator Obama led John McCain 61%-31% NOW President Obama leads Mitt Romney 68%-25%.

As Mitt Romney tacks harder to the Right he risks losing even MORE Jewish support as Jewish voters tend to be more liberal voters. His continued gaffes including refusal to speak out on the conversion of Holocaust Victims to the LDS Church, or scheduling a dinner on Tisha B' Av, or basically showing himself to be completely unversed in Middle Eastern politics are not "confidence builders' to say the least. Let's also not forget that his domestic agenda (which as far as anyone can see is "Bring back the Bush team" and cut taxes for the super wealthy and not a whole lot else) is hardly inspiring to anyone outside the far-right and the lunatic fringe.

4 comments:

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    Good diary, volley. Non-bigoted Jews know full well that Romney is an unmitigated disaster.

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    1. Agreed but then there are those who only think on Barack HUSSEIN Obama.... What can you do?

      Did you know that when Mittens was in charge of the Olympics in 2002 and the I.O.C. was asked for a minute of silence for the Israeli Athletes slain on the 30th anniversary of the massacre - the I.O.C. denied that AND Mitt was at that time silent.

      But now... well Mitt's a true friend to Jews because he called J'slem Israel's Capital all while saying that he would not change a thing from todays policies. Heh.

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  3. Response to deleted comment here... PART II

    OK so now that we have that cleared up... I want to respond to what I consider a completely ignorant comment that was posted here by a Right Wing blogger from France.

    So... here we go... Sentence by sentence:

    From Europe, I really have a hard time understanding how a jew (who proudly called himself zionist and jew) can support a guy named Barack *Hussein* Obama

    First of all... Please capitalize "Zionist" and "Jew"... we deserve that.

    Second of all... You are in Europe, NOT here in the U.S. where President Obama has done a very good job in the face of multiple problems, running our country. You may not care about Affordable Healthcare, The American economy, our environmental issues, the American education system, or anything else American. BUT... we do. Being a "Zionist" or "Jew" does not conflict with being an American citizen and America is our home. The Republican challenger Mitt Romney offers NOTHING for Americans except a re-hash of the Bush era policies that got us in this mess in the first place.

    THIRD OF ALL... who cares what President Obama's middle name is. Yes, yes... I know it is important to the rest of you Republicans and ODS sufferers who have a racist/Islamophobic bias but to real Americans (and yes I use the term "real"), a persons heritage or religion should have ZERO to do with our political system. As long as that person is a loyal American who has America's best interests in mind... who gives a flying fuck what his middle name is. To care about that is bigoted and sad AND is un-American (but you don't have to worry about that part).

    a man who went to a muslim high school in indonesia

    Again... capitalize Muslim and Indonesia. They deserve that as well.

    But, if you are going to spout off on the American President... at least get shit right. President Obama DID NOT go to a Muslim High School in Indonesia... unless you mean that the American State of Hawaii is actually part of Indonesia. Then... you better let the Hawaiians in on this one, they will want to know ASAP that they are not American.

    The future President Obama moved to Hawaii when he was 10 in 1971 and attended the Punahou School from fifth grade thru his last year in high school.

    and then sit for 20 years listening to a proven antisemite in a weird church who believes Jesus was black

    The Reverend Wright is a lot of things and the President disavowed him for the negative changes that took over his later life. Is Wright an anti-Semite, I don't know. He is a critic of America and Israel. But the President broke off that relationship in a very public life.

    As for Jesus being Black... How do you know he wasn't? Do you have any pictures of him? He most likely looked a Mizrachi Jew or Palestinian Arab considering he was from that area. We have no idea what Jesus looked like your racism aside.

    a man that did not even went to Israel (was he saving gas for the planet ?)

    OHOH got that one wrong too. President Obama visited Israel. President Obama went to Israel in 2008. Did he go as President, Nope but then again neither did Ronald Reagan or Bush I and it was not until 2008 at the end of his term did Bush II visit. SO... you were saying.

    So look here is the deal. This was fun to wipe out ridiculous Right Wing / ODS talking points. BUT... if you want to post here and you are going to make claims. BACK. THEM. UP.

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