Cross Posted at Daily Kos
Last nights Republican Arizona debate was truly a Wacktastic event. The candidates covered a gamut of subjects in what might be the Wackiest event I think I have ever heard.
First - if you want some real laughs... Here is the transcript of the debate. Read it and laugh or weep (I am still trying to figure out what to do). Either way - here are some of the gems....
First we have Former Governor Mitt Romney suggesting we use the Saudi Arabians and Turks to arm the Syrian Rebels to help overthrow the Government of Bashir Assad.
We need to work with — with Saudi Arabia and with Turkey to say, you guys provide the kind of weaponry that’s needed to help the rebels inside Syria. This is a critical time for us.
So let's see... we want to give the Wahabite Government of Saudi Arabia money or weapons to influence the overthrow of the Damascus Regime. The same Wahabite Sect that spawned Al-Qaeda, the same Wahabite Sect that runs one of the most backward regimes in the world - we want to have them surrounding our friends in Israel and Jordan? Yeah.... that makes sense. How in G-d's name does that make the situation any better than it is now.
OR... we want Turkey, a country that openly trades with Iran and has become increasingly hostile to both Israel and the U.S. to be sponsoring this change. Okie dokie, that too makes sense (well not really unless you live in the bizarro world that the Republicans seem to be inhabiting).
Of course the biggest FAIL line of the night.... goes to Newt Gingrich who said this:
And I agree with — with Senator Santorum’s point. This is an administration which, as long as you’re America’s enemy, you’re safe.
Perhaps we should ask Osama Bin Laden and a large former portion of the Al-Qaeda leadership about that... Oh wait, we can't - they're dead. Whoops.
But lets not forget "the Mad Elf" and noted racist Ron Paul with this pearl of wisdom:
The Iranians can’t possibly attack anybody. And we’re worrying about the possibility of one nuclear weapon.
Okay, why worry about just one bomb, I mean what can just one little nuke do... And hey Iran can't attack anyone anyway because we have them surrounded. I guess Mr. Paul has never heard of using proxies in war or using these modern things called Missiles. Someone might want to let him in on this. Perhaps our friends on the right who call Mr. Paul a "staunch ally of Israel" or "simply misunderstood:" can clear up just how this total unconcern can translate into "staunch ally".
But there was much, much more and on different subjects. Here, we once again have Mr. Paul on immigration:
Why is it if an illegal comes across the border and they go on private property, why isn’t that trespassing? And why don’t you have the right to stop it?
Gee, I wonder what Congressman Paul is really saying.... No, actually I don't wonder at all. We all see the "No Trespassing signs" that are posted (usually with pictures of a Gun) - so what does he mean "why don't you have a right to stop it"? Individuals do have a right to stop trespassing particularly if they see someone sneaking over the border. They can call the Border Patrol, or Police - THAT is what they can do.
Ok, so outside of advocating "stopping trespassing" another pearl of wisdom from the Congressman:
But once again, the question is, if you voted for Planned Parenthood like the senator has, you voted for birth control pills. And you literally, because funds are fungible, you literally vote for abortions because Planned Parenthood gets the money — “Oh, I’ll buy birth control pills,” but then they have the money left over to do the abortion.
Thus, in Congressman Paul's world if you support Planned Parenthood and you buy birth control pills then really you are funding and supporting abortion. Of course, for Congressman Paul and his associates, this exercise in illogic escapes them. Here is Rick Santorum on the same issue:
"Over 40 percent of children born in America are born out of wedlock. How can a country survive if children are being raised in homes where it’s so much harder to succeed economically? "
And Mitt Romney:
"Because these kids are raised in poverty in many cases, they’re in abusive settings. The likelihood of them being able to finish high school or college drops dramatically in single-family homes. And we haven’t been willing to talk about this."
And this lack of sensibility in a nutshell is where the Republicans and their candidates COMPLETELY FAIL.... They oppose Birth Control and education about Birth Control as well as groups that promote Birth Control and yet they whine about how there are so many unwanted pregnancies and abortions - THE VERY THING THAT BIRTH CONTROL PREVENTS!!!!
Do they think by teaching morality in schools they are really going to cut down on sex? Apparently they do.
So for those who support Republicans or those who suffer ODS and refuse to support President Obama in 2012.... You own this. This is your future. This is what you are voting for or advocating for when you argue against the President's re-election. Now, dissenters will say "Oh no.. I am just sending the President a message" or "Oh no, I don't support any of this". Well.. newsflash... These are the guys that WILL get elected if you vote against the President OR simply don't vote.
One may disagree with President Obama on issues - I certainly have complaints on a number of things (mostly related to the economy and the lack of focus on economic justice), but, I have no illusions regarding what would be happening if the President had not been elected and I have no illusions about what will happen if he is not re-elected. So, is he the perfect candidate... no but, he is a darn good candidate AND he is a whole lot better than those running against him.
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Goofy Republicans and the Jewish Vote
Cross Posted at Daily Kos
This year the Republicans have been making a huge push for the Jewish vote AND with that Jewish Campaign Donations. Because of that, we see a myriad of strange attacks none of which are fact based, and all of which ignore the traditional liberal nature of the American Jewish Polity.
Many of these attacks center on the U.S. relationship with Israel and/or how President Obama has slighted Israel in some way by either originally supporting forces of change in the Arab World, working with the changes that have been wrought by the mass revolts of the "Arab Spring", or has stuck to the position of every American Government since 1967 with regards to secure borders and the land captured from Jordan in the Six Day War. And of course, one of these slights has been not responding to every single incident that the Israeli Right (and their supporters here) have determined to be anti-Semitic (and these incidents may be and are anti-Semitic but the President of the U.S. has other things to worry about than issuing condemnations regarding every single thing broadcast on Palestinian Authority or Hamas T.V.).
Hopefully, the American Jewish community which has traditionally been quite liberal is not going to buy this crap.
Lately we see the ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) sufferers on the Right, just getting silly and spewing (and I mean spewing) nonsense like, continuing to call President Obama a secret Muslim, saying that he loves and enables "radical genocidal jihad", blaming him for the breakdown in talks in the Middle East, straight out calling Democrats anti-Semites and generally urging the American Jewish Community to turn to the Right and actually vote for Republicans this year.... all the while claiming they are still "liberal".
Of course what makes this nonsensical (aside from the fact that it is not true) is that nothing says "liberal" like ending affordable Healthcare, pushing for an end to Medicare, taxing the Middle Class and Poor while relieving the Ultra Wealthy of all tax burdens, undoing Roe v. Wade, Gutting the environment and on and on and on. (/snark)
AND THAT'S WHAT THESE NITWITS ARE VOTING FOR WHEN THEY VOTE REPUBLICAN! and yet amazingly they call themselves "Liberals"
They simply seem to forget that President Obama:
1. Is the First President ever to hold a Seder in the White House.
2. Is the First President to declare a month of the year "Jewish History Month" (May 2011).
3. Has increased aid and cooperation with/to Israel beyond a measure of any other President and has been termed by the Israeli President (Shimon Peres) and Defense Minister Ehud Barak as an "EXCEPTIONAL FRIEND" to Israeli Security
and on and on and on.
Yet, "The Derangers" (as we call them) yell... But, but, but.... "He is an anti-Semite".
It simply boggles the mind just what these fools come up with.
Of course, many of them seem to love Newt Gingrich because of his rabid denials of Palestinian peoplehood and his ties to the Israeli Hard Right YET... I haven't seen anyone of them commenting on any blog regarding the fact that he has not denounced this incident that happened at a church service that he was attending:
The President of the United States has the people of the United States and U.S. Alliances to worry about. Gestures like not moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem or denying Palestinian history really don't amount to much considering his responsibilities and quite honestly his actions which prove beyond a doubt that he is supportive of our friendship with Israel.
But for these wanna-be Republicans I guess they will not like the following news from Nate Silver
I guess that President Obama is having such trouble with Jewish support that one of his top bundlers is the chairman of the American Jewish Congress
However it is important to continue to fight the misinformation, poor framing, and outright lies spread by the Republicans and their supporters/enablers in order to try to win enough of the Jewish vote away from the President particularly in States like Florida and Pennsylvania, where the President will need every vote that he can get.
As Mets102 so correctly wrote: Jewish values are Democratic Values and they are.These faux "liberals" (hey they claim David Horowitz is a "liberal" that is how far outside of rationality they are) don't represent anything but a wish list of Hard Rightists who are more worried about voting against a guy whose middle name is Hussein then they are with supporting Israel in fact or recognizing that President Obama is a true friend to Jewish Americans.
For me, and hopefully many of my Jewish brothers and sisters it will be OBAMA 2012!
This year the Republicans have been making a huge push for the Jewish vote AND with that Jewish Campaign Donations. Because of that, we see a myriad of strange attacks none of which are fact based, and all of which ignore the traditional liberal nature of the American Jewish Polity.
Many of these attacks center on the U.S. relationship with Israel and/or how President Obama has slighted Israel in some way by either originally supporting forces of change in the Arab World, working with the changes that have been wrought by the mass revolts of the "Arab Spring", or has stuck to the position of every American Government since 1967 with regards to secure borders and the land captured from Jordan in the Six Day War. And of course, one of these slights has been not responding to every single incident that the Israeli Right (and their supporters here) have determined to be anti-Semitic (and these incidents may be and are anti-Semitic but the President of the U.S. has other things to worry about than issuing condemnations regarding every single thing broadcast on Palestinian Authority or Hamas T.V.).
Hopefully, the American Jewish community which has traditionally been quite liberal is not going to buy this crap.
Lately we see the ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) sufferers on the Right, just getting silly and spewing (and I mean spewing) nonsense like, continuing to call President Obama a secret Muslim, saying that he loves and enables "radical genocidal jihad", blaming him for the breakdown in talks in the Middle East, straight out calling Democrats anti-Semites and generally urging the American Jewish Community to turn to the Right and actually vote for Republicans this year.... all the while claiming they are still "liberal".
Of course what makes this nonsensical (aside from the fact that it is not true) is that nothing says "liberal" like ending affordable Healthcare, pushing for an end to Medicare, taxing the Middle Class and Poor while relieving the Ultra Wealthy of all tax burdens, undoing Roe v. Wade, Gutting the environment and on and on and on. (/snark)
AND THAT'S WHAT THESE NITWITS ARE VOTING FOR WHEN THEY VOTE REPUBLICAN! and yet amazingly they call themselves "Liberals"
They simply seem to forget that President Obama:
1. Is the First President ever to hold a Seder in the White House.
2. Is the First President to declare a month of the year "Jewish History Month" (May 2011).
3. Has increased aid and cooperation with/to Israel beyond a measure of any other President and has been termed by the Israeli President (Shimon Peres) and Defense Minister Ehud Barak as an "EXCEPTIONAL FRIEND" to Israeli Security
and on and on and on.
Yet, "The Derangers" (as we call them) yell... But, but, but.... "He is an anti-Semite".
It simply boggles the mind just what these fools come up with.
Of course, many of them seem to love Newt Gingrich because of his rabid denials of Palestinian peoplehood and his ties to the Israeli Hard Right YET... I haven't seen anyone of them commenting on any blog regarding the fact that he has not denounced this incident that happened at a church service that he was attending:
Inside, the topic of the evening discussion, led by Joel Rosenberg, a novelist who writes about Islamic terrorism, focused partially on how to convert Jews to the faith.
"As a Jewish person," Rosenberg, who was raised by a Jewish father and a Gentile mother, "our people really didn't get it the first time Jesus came."
He urged the audience not to be bashful, and to act quickly in case the End Times were nigh. "I know you know Jewish people," he told them. "You have an accountant, you have a lawyer..."HEY Derangers... where are your calls for Newt condemn this anti-Semitic bullshit? Eh, anyone... anyone.....
The President of the United States has the people of the United States and U.S. Alliances to worry about. Gestures like not moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem or denying Palestinian history really don't amount to much considering his responsibilities and quite honestly his actions which prove beyond a doubt that he is supportive of our friendship with Israel.
But for these wanna-be Republicans I guess they will not like the following news from Nate Silver
7:29 P.M. |Jewish Turnout Low in Florida There has been some speculation that Democrats could struggle to hold the Jewish vote in 2012. They had struggled, for instance, in the special election in New York's 9th Congressional District in 2011, which has a heavy Orthodox Jewish population.
But there is no sign tonight of Jewish voters switching their registration over to the Republican side in Florida. According to early exit polls, just 1 percent of voters in tonight's Republican primary identified as Jewish. That's down from 3 percent in the Florida Republican primary in 2008, which also might mean that Jewish Republican voters in the state are not terribly enthusiastic about this group of candidates. Jewish turnout in general elections in Florida is normally about 4 percentand then there is this:
I guess that President Obama is having such trouble with Jewish support that one of his top bundlers is the chairman of the American Jewish Congress
Among the newly named bundlers who have raised at least $500,000 or more for the Obama re-election are Marc Benioff, a Silicon Valley computer tycoon who founded Salesforce.com and hosted a fundraiser for the president at his home last spring; Jack Rosen, a prominent New York real estate developer who is chairman of the American Jewish Congress; and Kawana Brown, the chief operating officer of Magic Johnson Enterprises.OH YEAH and according to the American Jewish Committee Poll 2011 (widely considered to be an accurate read on Jewish Political trends), while Jews do not identify as Democrats as much as they did in 2008 (54% to 46%), Republicans have not picked up anything and in fact, are down 1% in their support. Much of that support is now identified as "Independent", but if trends continue President Obama should still end up with close to 73% of the Jewish vote.
However it is important to continue to fight the misinformation, poor framing, and outright lies spread by the Republicans and their supporters/enablers in order to try to win enough of the Jewish vote away from the President particularly in States like Florida and Pennsylvania, where the President will need every vote that he can get.
As Mets102 so correctly wrote: Jewish values are Democratic Values and they are.These faux "liberals" (hey they claim David Horowitz is a "liberal" that is how far outside of rationality they are) don't represent anything but a wish list of Hard Rightists who are more worried about voting against a guy whose middle name is Hussein then they are with supporting Israel in fact or recognizing that President Obama is a true friend to Jewish Americans.
For me, and hopefully many of my Jewish brothers and sisters it will be OBAMA 2012!
Friday, December 9, 2011
Hey Newt - Learn some history!.
Anyone who knows I/P knows that I am a supporter of the existence of Israel as the National Homeland and State of the Jewish People. I am proud to be called a Zionist and I believe that the Jewish people have a very legitimate right to self-governance in their own National setting.
That said.... I cannot accept, condone, or support the idiocy of Newt Gingrich and his latest bigoted comments regarding the Palestinian people as an "invented people". The gall of this man to pander to the worst elements of the American Jewish and Evangelical Christian polity seems to know no bounds.
What brings on this rant? An interview that the Republican nominee gave to the Jewish Channel.
That said.... I cannot accept, condone, or support the idiocy of Newt Gingrich and his latest bigoted comments regarding the Palestinian people as an "invented people". The gall of this man to pander to the worst elements of the American Jewish and Evangelical Christian polity seems to know no bounds.
What brings on this rant? An interview that the Republican nominee gave to the Jewish Channel.
In that interview Gingrich (and notice I don't use the word "Mr.") had this to say:
Now it is true that there has never been a nation of Palestine and the district has been controlled by outside forces (Ottomens, Romans, Arab Caliphates etc.... ) that does not mean that the people inhabiting that area for thousands of years do not have their own distinct cultural patterns that while Palestinians are Arab peoples they are their own distinct nationality within that group.
Here is a brief history on Palestine:
But Newt doesn't just make his bigoted comment... he doubles down with claims that Palestinians had many places to go in the conflict with Israel and didn't take advantage of that. Well, again Newt's vaunted history degree fails him. As history shows us the exact opposite was the case. After rejection of the U.N. Partition by the Arab Polity in 1948 and the loss of the War of Independence, the Palestinian people that left, or were forced out of their homes had no where to go except to squalid refugee camps to be abused by their brethren in other nations.
Like those racists who say "Well the Jews could always have left Germany", Gingrich should know that the Palestinians could not just up and leave their homes and have many places to go. While I believe that fighting the War and not accepting the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was a tragic mistake, one need not minimize the trauma of that War and it's aftermath.
With this statement Newt Gingrich shows just how unfit he is to be the leader of the United States. I say this as a Zionist, and supporter of Israel. We don't need or want racist meme's and bigotry to support the maintainence of Israel. We want a President who understands that Peace between Palestinians (and Arabs overall) and Jews is the priority and that real measures that increase both people's security and well being are what will accomplish that goal.
Please join with me in turning away from Gingrich's comment and towards supporting secure States for both the Jewish and Palestinian people.
Shalom, Salaam, Peace.
Gingrich differed with official U.S. policy that respects the Palestinians as a people deserving of their own state based on negotiations with Israel.
"Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire" until the early 20th century, Gingrich said.
"I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people who are in fact Arabs, and who were historically part of the Arab community. And they had a chance to go many places, and for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s, and it's tragic," he said.Unbelievable.... Like when people of good conscience stood up to Israeli non-Zionist Shlomo Tzand and his garbage regarding the Jewish people as an "invented people" so should people of good conscience stand up to Newt Gingrich when he claims the Palestinian people are an "invented people".
Now it is true that there has never been a nation of Palestine and the district has been controlled by outside forces (Ottomens, Romans, Arab Caliphates etc.... ) that does not mean that the people inhabiting that area for thousands of years do not have their own distinct cultural patterns that while Palestinians are Arab peoples they are their own distinct nationality within that group.
Here is a brief history on Palestine:
The term Peleset (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in numerous Egyptian documents referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt. The first mention is thought to be in texts of the temple at Medinet Habu which record a people called the Peleset among the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign.[9] The Assyrians called the same region Palashtu or Pilistu, beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to emperor Sargon II in his Annals approximately a century later.[10][11][1]
Neither the Egyptian or Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the region synonymous with that defined in modern times was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece. Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called PalaistinĂª" in The Histories, the first historical work clearly defining the region, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[12][13][14][15][16][17]
Approximately a century later, Aristotle used a similar definition in Meteorology, writing "Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said. They say that this lake is so bitter and salt that no fish live in it and that if you soak clothes in it and shake them it cleans them," understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[18]
Later writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the term to refer to the same region. This usage was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[19] Other writers, such as Strabo, a prominent Roman-era geographer (although he wrote in Greek), referred to the region as Coele-Syria around 10-20 CE.[20][21] The term was first used to denote an official province in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and other surrounding cities such as Ashkelon to form "Syria Palaestina" (Syria Palaestina), which some scholars state was in order to complete the dissociation with Judaea.[22][23]So while there was no formal Palestine as a nation it was certainly regarded as a separate district within the ruling polity and it's people were considered a unique people. Further, food, use of language and cultural customs were all developed along those lines.
But Newt doesn't just make his bigoted comment... he doubles down with claims that Palestinians had many places to go in the conflict with Israel and didn't take advantage of that. Well, again Newt's vaunted history degree fails him. As history shows us the exact opposite was the case. After rejection of the U.N. Partition by the Arab Polity in 1948 and the loss of the War of Independence, the Palestinian people that left, or were forced out of their homes had no where to go except to squalid refugee camps to be abused by their brethren in other nations.
Like those racists who say "Well the Jews could always have left Germany", Gingrich should know that the Palestinians could not just up and leave their homes and have many places to go. While I believe that fighting the War and not accepting the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was a tragic mistake, one need not minimize the trauma of that War and it's aftermath.
With this statement Newt Gingrich shows just how unfit he is to be the leader of the United States. I say this as a Zionist, and supporter of Israel. We don't need or want racist meme's and bigotry to support the maintainence of Israel. We want a President who understands that Peace between Palestinians (and Arabs overall) and Jews is the priority and that real measures that increase both people's security and well being are what will accomplish that goal.
Please join with me in turning away from Gingrich's comment and towards supporting secure States for both the Jewish and Palestinian people.
Shalom, Salaam, Peace.
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